We’re talking about Minutes 19-20 of The Muppet Christmas Carol, in which Kermit continues “One More Sleep” and ice-skates with penguins. With EXTREMELY special guest Noel MacNeal of Sesame Street, Bear in the Big Blue House, Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, The Show-Me Show, and much more!

PLUS: How do these cool puppet sequences get made? An imaginary bookshelf! Why was it so hard to make Kermit lock a door? Who are Jolly and Joyal? And the penguins’ skating party!

ALSO: Find Noel and Bear on TikTok and on Cameo!

ALSO: Read MuppetZine #15 — which includes Danny Horn’s Muppet holiday special guide that asks the question “Who slips on the ice?” — on ToughPigs.com!

ALSO: Watch the Sesame Street clip of Bert’s ice-skating dream on YouTube!

Hosted by Anthony Strand & Ryan Roe

Guest Noel MacNeal

Produced & Edited by Ryan Roe

Logo by Morgan Davy

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