We’re talking about Minutes 51 & 52 of The Muppets Take Manhattan, in which Kermit and Piggy make up and go for a carriage ride as Piggy daydreams about Muppet babies. With special guest Tansy Rayner Roberts of the Doctor Who fan podcast Verity!

PLUS: Is Piggy still wearing skates? A very familiar carriage driver! Upstairs vs. downstairs Muppet Babies! Who played Rowlf’s glissandos? And the extremely different alternate fantasy sequence!

Hosted by Anthony Strand & Ryan Roe

Guest Tansy Rayner Roberts

Produced by Ryan Roe

Theme Music by Staci Rosen

Logo by Morgan Davy

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