We’re talking about Minutes 35 & 36 of The Great Muppet Caper, in which our heroes Neville and Dorcas talk about the weather and see a pig climbing up the side of their house. (Did you say “a pig climbing up the side of the house?”) With special guest Leah Papazoglou! Plus: The Creature Shop builds Brendan Fraser! A dramatization of the dialectic between id and superego! Childhood confusion over Willy Wonka! And how are late ’90s Muppet movies like the Detroit Red Wings?

ALSO: Check out Leah’s review of the Muppet special Studio DC: Almost Live on ToughPigs.com!

Hosted by Anthony Strand & Ryan Roe

Guest Leah Papazoglou

Produced by Ryan Roe

Theme Music by Staci Rosen

Logo by Morgan Davy

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